Listen to The Bible and Beyond podcast interview of Mark M. Mattison and Samuel Zinner, PhD, by Shirley Paulson, PhD. In the interview, Zinner and Mattison talk about their new translation of the second-century Odes of Solomon. This collection of ancient hymns is not only a real monument of literature, but it transcends the borders of religious orthodoxy. Written before the early Jesus movements distinguished themselves from Judaism, it is equally at home with texts like the Gospel of John and the Dead Sea Scrolls.